All About Keys

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Re: All About Keys

Postby toomanyreceivers » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:58 pm

spok2010 wrote:I'd like to know if autoroll can find only Powervu and Tandberg keys or it can find Biss, Nagra and other codes? For exemple: Nagra on 61 W will open? Thank you.


It will not find Biss, Nagra or Tandberg on it's own. :(

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Re: All About Keys

Postby FTA4LIFE » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:01 pm

I have update my V7 combo with new firmware but i dont see tandberg why is that?

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Re: All About Keys

Postby Feralkiwi » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:13 pm

FTA4LIFE wrote:I have update my V7 combo with new firmware but i dont see tandberg why is that?

Hi

I've got version .303 software in my V7 Combo. FREESAT_V7COMBO_20160728
With this I see Tandburg in the Conditional access menu.

Here is the Update log from that version.
"20160728
-Freesat_v7_hd.bin
Please backup your channel list then update box by allcode mode.
if you box don't find this firmware from usb stick. Please update the box to FREESAT_V7COMO_20160606 the first.
1) update softcam core for Tanberg / Director
now generated some data in firmware for Vinasat 1 at 132.0°E....
if you found Tanberg / Director channel don't be opened please find the key and import it by softcam.key.

2) add the disable usb device pop message
main menu / system / other / Device PoP message :
On ---> the usb storage /wifi message will be shew when you insert or plug out
off ---> the usb storage /wifi message will not be shew when you insert or plug out
3) update softcam core for DRECrypt system

If you are using an earlier version you will need to update to get Tandburg.

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Re: All About Keys

Postby SatEze » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:18 pm

The Powervu Channels on 4000-H-28120-V at 58.0°W are not opening on the V7HD and V8 Super. Can the keys be posted?

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Re: All About Keys

Postby Feralkiwi » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:56 am

spok2010 wrote:I'd like to know if autoroll can find only Powervu and Tandberg keys or it can find Biss, Nagra and other codes? For exemple: Nagra on 61 W will open? Thank you.

As yet the Freesat units only fine Tandberg and PowerVu.

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Re: All About Keys

Postby zdan » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:44 am

Dear Admin,

which is correct format to create softcam.key?

softcam.key

or

SoftCam.Key

or

SoftCam.key

Does uppercase and lowercase sensitive..?

TQ.

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Re: All About Keys

Postby cpr43 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:48 pm

It is not case sensitive. Any time you edit the file you need to SAVE AS and overwrite over the file. If not the computer will create a TXT file which will not work. Here is an empty one for you. It is compressed. You will need to Unrar and get the file inside. Add all the data you may have and make sure you SAVE AS over it.
Attachments
SoftCam.rar
(75 Bytes) Downloaded 1465 times

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Re: All About Keys

Postby sattelight » Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:22 pm

I have a problem with Biss keys. I imported a softcam file, I see no keys listed on biss menu, only in mgcamd biss menu.
When I manually add a Biss key it works, but if I go back to the biss key insertion menu there aren't any keys anymore and channel won't open anymore. Reboot also loses Biss key.

Anyone else has this problem? Maybe the softcam.key I imported screw up manual insertion of biss ?

update: imported new softcam.key from here:http://www.freesat.cn/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=446&sid=6f7b96ffba95f3081d982573fe654751
and everything is working fine.
So softcam.key files that work on PC may have weird behavior on V7, if not properly adapted.

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Re: All About Keys

Postby Feralkiwi » Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:29 pm

sattelight wrote:I have a problem with Biss keys. I imported a softcam file, I see no keys listed on biss menu, only in mgcamd biss menu.
When I manually add a Biss key it works, but if I go back to the biss key insertion menu there aren't any keys anymore and channel won't open anymore. Reboot also loses Biss key.

Anyone else has this problem? Maybe the softcam.key I imported screw up manual insertion of biss ?

update: imported new softcam.key from here:http://www.freesat.cn/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=446&sid=6f7b96ffba95f3081d982573fe654751
and everything is working fine.
So softcam.key files that work on PC may have weird behavior on V7, if not properly adapted.


I found that the V7HD would not use a typed in PowerVu code but the same code worked if loaded via USB softcam.key file.
Are you pressing "exit" and then clicking "Yes" as you leave the BISS entry menu?

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Re: All About Keys

Postby Feralkiwi » Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:57 pm

sattelight wrote:I have a problem with Biss keys. I imported a softcam file, I see no keys listed on biss menu, only in mgcamd biss menu.
When I manually add a Biss key it works, but if I go back to the biss key insertion menu there aren't any keys anymore and channel won't open anymore. Reboot also loses Biss key.

Anyone else has this problem? Maybe the softcam.key I imported screw up manual insertion of biss ?

update: imported new softcam.key from here:http://www.freesat.cn/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=446&sid=6f7b96ffba95f3081d982573fe654751
and everything is working fine.
So softcam.key files that work on PC may have weird behavior on V7, if not properly adapted.


This has also been reported by "vaxi" on this forum

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Re: All About Keys

Postby pakogist » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:01 am

Hello, freesat is the number 1 receiver in African, East and west which has been doing justices to powervu. We recently got your update on xcrypt keys on 113e, which is behind our horizon.
We want to make a special requests for you to help us with the following ;
Eutelsat 9b. We can get that sat with 80cm dish and they host some channels, named "sisal". Among the sisal, Skysports 1&2 is amongst them and are encrypted with xcrypt.
Also Eutelsat 7e, Africa beam. We have this CBST 1-7 encrypted with xcrypt as well. It host bein sports, husler hd and other sports channels and we can get it with 80cm dish aa well.
Currently i have more than 500 pieces of freesat in stock and there are many decoders running on auto roll.
Please just assist us with sales and provide update on freesat v7 max and freesat, small box for xcrypt channels and see as sales will role in.
Thanks.
240cm dish, 100cm, 90cm, 80cm and 60cm

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Re: All About Keys

Postby ALHAJI K » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:05 am

Morning boss :ugeek:

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Re: All About Keys

Postby De Fault » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:34 am

Good afternoon, Sir :!:

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Re: All About Keys

Postby sattelight » Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:12 pm

Feralkiwi wrote:
sattelight wrote:I have a problem with Biss keys. I imported a softcam file, I see no keys listed on biss menu, only in mgcamd biss menu.
When I manually add a Biss key it works, but if I go back to the biss key insertion menu there aren't any keys anymore and channel won't open anymore. Reboot also loses Biss key.

Anyone else has this problem? Maybe the softcam.key I imported screw up manual insertion of biss ?

update: imported new softcam.key from here:http://www.freesat.cn/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=446&sid=6f7b96ffba95f3081d982573fe654751
and everything is working fine.
So softcam.key files that work on PC may have weird behavior on V7, if not properly adapted.


This has also been reported by "vaxi" on this forum

Owen


I think it was an improperly formatted softcam.key that triggered this. I wouldn't call it a bug if we're entering the data incorrectly.
And it didn't need a reboot, if I re-entered the BISS menu it would delete the keys.

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Re: All About Keys

Postby Vlad » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:08 pm

valstef wrote:Возможно ли сделать автоматическое обновление ключей на кодировку PowerVu, на транспондер 10934 Н 13750 , HBO c 4*W Amos.

Какой у тебя ресивер? Golden, Super, Angel автоматические генерируются ключи для дискавери.

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Re: All About Keys (Units not finding changing keys)

Postby Feralkiwi » Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:04 am

Hi all

Today I have been testing powervu problems.
I find that with channels where the code changes often, the V8 Golden stopped finding the powervu code when there were more than 8 or 9 code lines in the softcam.key file as listed via the conditional access menu.
The line count over 8 is counting both Key idx "00" and idx "01" code lines for the same TP info.
I deleted 4 out of 9 code lines listed and the V8 Golden then went and found the new code.

The channels that change codes for me are MTN off NSS9 @ 177W and AFN off Intelsat 18C @ 180E.

Has anyone else found this?

I assume that the Freesat units check the codes in the list, trying all the idx "00" against all the idx "01" codes.
The two halves of the code are not tied together, as you need only add the new half to your list when changes happen.
This was demonstrated with the code chnages for Intelsat 19 @ 166e listed by "bigcar" on the Wed Sep 14, 2016, where only the idx "01" were given, as there were no changes to idx "00".

This could be the problem for a lot of users that find their units will not find the codes.
When you "Export" your softcam.key file and then "import" it again, the codes that are in the #*# Auto ECM Key #*# part of the list are added to the main list. I found I had many doubles of codes from this.

As users export and import their codes after each software update, they may have so many double ups of code that they have more than 8 codes for a channel and their units stop finding new codes.

Could others of you test this?

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Re: All About Keys

Postby spok2010 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:31 am

Freesat V7 does not have autoroll, so you will always to insert keys in your softcam.key.

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Re: All About Keys

Postby spok2010 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:34 am

I need keys for 4000 V 30000, HBO channels on 58.W. Could anybody help me?

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Re: All About Keys

Postby cpr43 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:35 am

spok2010 wrote:I need keys for 4000 V 30000, HBO channels on 58.W. Could anybody help me?


Those are Tandberg/ Director keys. Not available until now

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Re: All About Keys

Postby TtTtTt » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:18 pm

HI
is it legal to watch encrypted channel via any key like biss powervu
is there any legal action should take by broadcaster
or what precaution to be taken? Pm me

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Re: All About Keys

Postby Feralkiwi » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:15 pm

TtTtTt wrote:HI
is it legal to watch encrypted channel via any key like biss powervu
is there any legal action should take by broadcaster
or what precaution to be taken? Pm me

Good question!!!
I hope your answer does not come in the form of a lawyer's letter.
I live in the country where they broke many laws to "Attack" Kim Dotcom for what other people did on his Mega Uploads site.

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Re: All About Keys

Postby Marsat » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:06 pm

TtTtTt wrote:HI
is it legal to watch encrypted channel via any key like biss powervu
is there any legal action should take by broadcaster
or what precaution to be taken? Pm me



ist it legal? No from Argentina to China from London to the USA
The only difference some countries they do not have laws other they do not enforce them. And some with the help of BIG lawyers enforce them until the last dot.

sAlong you do not use an internet sharing key (IKS) that can trace back to you, or a neighbor that hates you. You are safe and sound :roll: well i think so

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Re: All About Keys

Postby cpr43 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:41 pm

TtTtTt wrote:HI
is it legal to watch encrypted channel via any key like biss powervu
is there any legal action should take by broadcaster
or what precaution to be taken? Pm me


You are in the wrong hobby and wrong place, sorry


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